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U - 21 Squad Announced, No room for e.l. Players |
 May 8 2008, 11:34 AM
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I see our "friend" Don Givens has announced his latest U-21 Squad and managed to ignore our league. Surely there are players playing here deserving of a place in the squad. The FAIlures sending out the wrong message again to players who decide to ply their trade at home.
 Republic of Ireland Under-21 Squad for Malaysia Tournament: Darren Randolph - Charlton Athletic Shane Redmond - Nottingham Forest Darren Dennehy - Everton Eddie Nolan - Blackburn Rovers Michael Spillane - Norwich City Shane Lowry - Aston Villa Ian Morris - Scunthorpe Marc Wilson - Portsmouth Michael Collins – Huddersfield Town Stephen Quinn - Sheffield United Alan Power - Nottingham Forest Keith Keane - Luton Town Keith Treacy - Blackburn Rovers Anthony Stokes - Sunderland Billy Clarke - Ipswich Town Karl Moore - Manchester City Alan Judge - Blackburn Rovers Stephen Maher - Yeovil Town James Berrett - Huddersfield. -------------------- ASK NOT WHAT YOUR CLUB CAN DO FOR YOU, BUT WHAT YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR CLUB.
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May 8 2008, 11:36 AM
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Typicall. This is why all EL players want to play in England.
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May 8 2008, 11:37 AM
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Keith Keane - Luton Town
Luton have been relegated to league 2. Givens shouldn't be left in charge of an U12s team, never mind the U21s team. |
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May 8 2008, 11:46 AM
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Who would people have picked from the el for that squad? Not many under 21 i can think of.
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May 8 2008, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (ballslikecoconuts @ May 8 2008, 01:46 PM)  Who would people have picked from the el for that squad? Not many under 21 i can think of. Seamus Coleman from Sligo Rovers for one. He's 20. I'd have Ronan Finn from UCD in there as well. |
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May 8 2008, 12:01 PM
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well whopp de doo.... Group: Members Posts: 1,210 Topics Started: 17 Posts per day: 0.89 Age: 28 Joined: 7-March 05 User's local time: Nov 21 2008, 12:00 PM From: Portlaoise Exiles Member No.: 662 |
QUOTE (Dripsey3 @ May 8 2008, 02:59 PM) Seamus Coleman from Sligo Rovers for one. He's 20. I'd have Ronan Finn from UCD in there as well. Thought coleman was older but yeah he's probably worth it. Not sure about Finn, cant say i'm too familiar with him though. Pretty slim pickings all the same though. |
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May 8 2008, 12:20 PM
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No eL players were picked because we're in the middle of the season and clubs would be losing players for a few weeks.
QUOTE We have a very young squad going out”, said Givens. “The Scottish season is still underway and there are play-off matches to be played in England so we decided not to call-up any player who may be involved in those matches. We also decided not to involve any eircom League of Ireland players, who are currently mid-season. The eircom League of Ireland managers have been very co-operative with me in the past and so I don’t want to call-up players who have important league matches to play. |
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May 8 2008, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE (ballslikecoconuts @ May 8 2008, 02:01 PM) Thought coleman was older but yeah he's probably worth it. Not sure about Finn, cant say i'm too familiar with him though. Pretty slim pickings all the same though. Finn was in the squad before. He's developing into a fine midfielder IMO. Coleman should one of the first names on Given's list. |
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May 8 2008, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE (xtreme rebel @ May 8 2008, 02:20 PM) No eL players were picked because we're in the middle of the season and clubs would be losing players for a few weeks. Fair enough. Just as long as he doesn't forget about them in the future. |
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May 8 2008, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE (Dripsey3 @ May 8 2008, 01:34 PM) Fair enough. Just as long as he doesn't forget about them in the future. I'd rather he did..**** the under 21 squad. Id rather they stay fit for us than playing for that **** -------------------- DAVE MOONEY IS A ONE SEASON WONDER..CLASSIC FROM DROGS FANS
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May 8 2008, 12:54 PM
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QUOTE (Dripsey3 @ May 8 2008, 02:37 PM) Keith Keane - Luton Town Luton have been relegated to league 2. Givens shouldn't be left in charge of an U12s team, never mind the U21s team. Don Givens u - 21 record is second to none . The team has qualified for many prestigious tournaments and have played excellent football . |
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May 8 2008, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE (Dripsey3 @ May 8 2008, 01:34 PM) Fair enough. Just as long as he doesn't forget about them in the future. I'd love to believe that anybody involved with the Rep of Ireland seniors team or U-21 actually cared about what was going on in our own league, but the reality is that they aren't interested. There were 2 or 3 EL players who deserved to be named in that 40 man squad Trap 'O Tony announced. ROD couldn't get a look in when he was here, but he starts 3 games for Sunderland in the Premier League and has a few substitute appearances and then he is worth looking at then. This is a quote from Givens I found on Scunthorpe's website. I'd give the benefit of the doubt, but I'm too cynical. "The eircom League of Ireland managers have been very co-operative with me in the past and so I don't want to call-up players who have important league matches to play -------------------- But Michael Devine walked so that his feet were at a 45 degree angle (he was not the only one walking like that in City's team).
No it isn't. |
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May 8 2008, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE (iluvyourmum @ May 8 2008, 03:54 PM) Don Givens u - 21 record is second to none . The team has qualified for many prestigious tournaments and have played excellent football . Pisstake? Ffs whens the last time tehy even won a game? -------------------- Football is a game meant to be played with a flourish, with skill and class. A team should go out and beat the opposition not wait for them to die of boredom
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May 8 2008, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE (iluvyourmum @ May 8 2008, 03:54 PM) Don Givens u - 21 record is second to none . The team has qualified for many prestigious tournaments and have played excellent football . Clearly a WUm but I will take the bait. AFAIK he has never qualified for a tournament. -------------------- ----------------------------------------------------
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May 8 2008, 03:44 PM
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A load of rubbish
. How can Don givans pick a squad without eircom league players. Givens OUT!
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May 8 2008, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE (sheao987 @ May 8 2008, 04:44 PM) A load of rubbish . How can Don givans pick a squad without eircom league players. Givens OUT!Read the thread properly to find your answer. -------------------- I'll never forget a match against Vasco at the Maracana in February 1963. Vasco were winning 2-1 with very little time left on the clock, and Fontana started jeering at me. 'Where's the so-called King?' he mocked. I scored a goal, but Fontana still didn't stop taunting - he was so sure their victory was guaranteed. But in the closing moments of the game, I scored the goal that gave us the draw. I retrieved the ball from the back of the net, jogged over to Fontana and handed it to him, saying, 'Here - take this back to your mother. It's a present from the King.'
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May 8 2008, 04:56 PM
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QUOTE (PabloDoll @ May 8 2008, 07:52 PM) Read the thread properly to find your answer. In fairness its a fairly silly reason imo. He's not picking them becuase their in season  Is he gonna pick them when out of season? Or will the excuse then be 'They arent match fit becuase they're out of season'
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May 8 2008, 05:09 PM
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Dudfield for England! Group: Members Posts: 3,188 Topics Started: 93 Posts per day: 2.52 Age: 24 Joined: 6-June 05 User's local time: Nov 21 2008, 12:00 PM Member No.: 1,016 Favourite Team: Cork City |
QUOTE (soccerlady @ May 8 2008, 05:56 PM) In fairness its a fairly silly reason imo. He's not picking them becuase their in season Is he gonna pick them when out of season? Or will the excuse then be 'They arent match fit becuase they're out of season'It's a very genuine reason. It's not just one international game, it's a tournament in Malaysia which could potentially keep the players away from their clubs for 2-3 weeks. I'd say Givens is actually disappointed to be leaving EL players out. Seamus Coleman and Conor Powell are two important members of his squad. I know he's generally a clown but give the guy a break on this. There's no ulterior motive. |
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May 8 2008, 10:43 PM
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QUOTE (PabloDoll @ May 8 2008, 03:09 PM) It's a very genuine reason. It's not just one international game, it's a tournament in Malaysia which could potentially keep the players away from their clubs for 2-3 weeks. I'd say Givens is actually disappointed to be leaving EL players out. Seamus Coleman and Conor Powell are two important members of his squad. I know he's generally a clown but give the guy a break on this. There's no ulterior motive. i can understand his reasoning, as long as he doesn't overlook them in the future -------------------- "Andy Reid on the ball now, and it must be said that he does come back from the summer break with a little extra,er,timber."
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May 10 2008, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (soccerlady @ May 8 2008, 07:56 PM) In fairness its a fairly silly reason imo. He's not picking them becuase their in season Is he gonna pick them when out of season? Or will the excuse then be 'They arent match fit becuase they're out of season'Actually happened a few years ago and those are the excuses he gave.
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