PROC Coverage of CCFC's Woes

I find the first 2 paragraphs just awful opinionated stuff. Or am I getting the hump cos I'm a fan? Haven't read it all yet so I might be jumping the gun...

This is a pretty well visited site and a lot of people go with whatever these guys say/are into this week.

BTW who is doing the add for the Bray game? Are the Club? Are they paying fo it? I'd love to see more of these ads more regularly.


All Eyes on the Premiership
Alan Ger

At some point logic will have to be brought kicking and screaming into the Eircom league. Forever wandering between glimmers of a genuine European challenge and cash strapped hoofing tomfoolery both on and off the field the Eircom League is again making headlines for all the wrong reasons with Cork City FC on the brink of financial collapse.
The accountant decides its time to invest in an Irish football club

The old excuse about a disinterested media is gone. Publicity is not in short supply.

Red FM and the Evening Echo are generally festooned with any breaking news from the club and with the highest attendances in the Eircom League it seems perplexing that a great club like City that has produced so many top players that have gone on to Premiership clubs could be in such dire straits.

Despite the column inches and valuable airtime, attendances at Turners Cross are below the 3,500 mark for most home games.

YOU DO THE MATH
Many of city's top players' wages are well above the €2,500 per week mark so the club needs at least 300 paying adult spectators at each fortnightly home game to cover each player. By that raw calculation after 3,000 fans have walked through the turnstyles we're still short a striker.

Advertising, merchandising and sponsorship make up some of the ground but it's bums on seats that fill the coffers and give every club its purpose.
City aren't alone in their financial toil. Galway are in such a monetary shambles that manager and ex-Ireland international Jeff Kenna has had to come out of retirement to replace players that had to be sold to keep the club solvent.
Arkaga homepage shot: the Cork City FC investors just can't be found anywhere - even in their own London offices

Shelbourne were Premier Division top dogs for a few short years and suddenly collapsed under giant unfeasible wage bills into a First Division nobody.

The country's top three teams Drogheda, Bohemians and now Cork are all in very serious trouble. Is anybody learning anything?


ABRAMOVICH WANNABEES
In any profession employees will always go wherever they can ply their trade for the best financial return. Full time soccer is no different.

The league's problem is primarily that cocky investors (eager to flaunt the new richboys' ultimate accessory) are pouring money into clubs and offering packages to players that other clubs either cannot match or struggle to maintain (CCFC's debt is now circa €800,000). Within a few seasons bored investors disappear, players move on and dedicated loyal fans are left sitting in empty stadiums shaking their heads.
Kevin Doyle: please go to Villa.

The reality is that the Premier Division is overloaded with weak clubs whose pitiful home attendances would make any city centre nightclub look depressingly empty - a recent Finn Harps/UCD Premier Division 'showdown' attracted less than 300 fans.

Some of them have to be sent packing to lower divisions for the good of everyone else - even from a purely cosmetic point of view.

MNS
The snazzy Monday Night Soccer show on RTE makes a mockery of its amateurish predecessor on TV3 but the one thing it cannot hide in its widespread coverage is the empty stadiums up and down the country - hardly an enticement to the fair weather supporter not to mind the average unconverted punter.

It isn't enough to just say that Cork can sustain a soccer club - it needs one. Berating those Corkonians who cling with delusional pride to their Chelsea jerseys or condemning the Munster bandwagon jumpers won't fill the Cross on Friday night.
By far the most vocal supporters of any Cork sport are at the Cross

Those sports' marketing executives made a plan and it's working. It still remains to be seen if those involved in domestic soccer can execute a similar cute-hoor plan of their own.

Again, all the talk is about investors and where the next giant cheque will come from. As well as level headed business people, for long-term sustainability the league's clubs need more supporters but they must be enticed for the right reasons, not converted through Premiership guilt or oval ball bandwagon shame.

GET OUT JAIL CARD
Genuine rays of hope for City fans and those who work hard at the club this week often refract into unfounded rumour by late evening. Reading turned down an Aston Villa bid for striker Kevin Doyle for £8 million. City will get 10% of any transfer fee which interestingly equates to the worrying deficit at Turners Cross - never have so many Cork computer mice clicked around the club websites of Aston Villa and Reading waiting for news of another bid.

Star player Dave Mooney has been offloaded to Reading for €250,000 which will plug a few holes and reduce the wage bill until the club's Examiner forms an opinion on whether the club can continue trading.

So all eyes on the Premiership then. And, there in a nut shell, lies the crux of the problem.


Cork City play Bray Wanderers at Turners Cross this Friday night (Aug 22nd) at 7.45pm.
Tickets €15 at the gate. More info...

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Statement from Cork City FC club this morning:

" At a meeting of the board of Cork City Football Club with its legal, and other, advisers a decision was taken to petition the High Court to place the club under the protection of the examinership process.

The board remains in talks with potential investors and is very optimistic and confident that Cork City will emerge from this difficult period and continue in to the future as one of the best clubs in the League of Ireland.

It is critical that the support given so generously, and over so many years, to Cork City Football Club by its fans continues during this period of examinership.

This is a time when the fans, players, management and officials need to come together and ensure that the best supported club in Ireland continues to be successful in to the future."



http://www.peoplesrepublicofcork.com/index...cle&sid=750

Local Football Clubs / Underage

This is kind of like what someone mentioned about the 'GAA model' so to speak...

What can or do Cork City or the FAI in general do to get the people involved and playing with these clubs to entice them to matches?

I'm not going down the same argument as the last time as things got very insulting for some people.

A possible suggestion to the club/FAI

Is there any way possible of providing a grant or incentive (or even mandatory !!) to get people from the local grassroots clubs to come to games of clubs in their county?
There are (it seems to me) too many benefits to doing something like this.


Take the underage setup...

Take a bus load of kids/players to a game(s) during the season. The kids get encouragement to hone their skills, the parents get a break and all in the knowledge that they are in a safe environment. The kids sty out of trouble and their interest in sport is hopefully kept alive. The kids maybe get a feel for the club (or perhaps already have) and it might see a rise in interest in the league and attendances.

Tickets should be provided by the club at decent prices or even subsidised by the FAI and should be passed onto ALL clubs at some stage and then on a demand basis after that.


Ah cr@p my brain is too fried to make sense and write this out properly but you get the gist I hope?!


How much of this is done at the moment?


All this talk about Arkaga, protests, fulltime or parttime, money, fans, wages and all sorts is all good when people want to find out more or vent or get gossiping or on high horses or whatever but it does all boil down to what state the league is in in general and what it's doing to get 'bums on seats', to get an interest in it, to secure good sponsorship and all the rest.

The reality is that LOI is competing with TV, GAA, Rugby, trips abroad, music, concerts, festivals, comedy...all sorts and the recession even for godsake!

Things have got to change and there are too many people pulling in different directions.

Things that need to be examined now are the same ones that were there 10-15 years ago (albeit most have improved, but enough?)

Facilities
Marketing
Wages
Finances
Sponsorship
Tv
and more

There should be an analysis done on every cent paid out by any club or anything to do with the league and what that cent did and whether it was worth it or not or whether what that cent did can be improved upon. A serious look at this from a business and marketing point of view as well as a structural point of view.

Whatever about Arkaga giving us this big all catered for Stadium and hoping to get into European group stages, would it have worked out or would the idea just have been fantasy with a minor improvement in rankings/finances/crowds/interest?

Are Bohs going to get their new stadium and all the rest. So much to be looked at and less blame to be laid with certain corners. For godsake we're as bad as the scapegoat finding nations of the world that we dislike so much.











I tried to be PC there...

Fenlon - "Don't Blame Us"

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/eir...us-1454281.html

Fair enough, but ye don't help either Pat. Invest in facilities an securing your FUTURE over winning the League or getting anywhere else first. It might soften the blow for some clubs.

3 LOI Players in Irish U21 Squad

http://www.eircomloi.ie/news-centre/news-1...ws-37/index.xml

I know about the other 2 but what is Madden like?

Mickofthehoops, you around to inform me?

Congrats to the lads too btw!

City to lose €1m this year?

Interesting article on the MNS site

http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/mns/features/eircomleague/

This bit got me wondering...

Bohs are believed to have lost more than €1million last year, Cork are expected to lose something similar this year, while other clubs are operating well beyond their means as a combination of poor attendances, lack of investment and high wages see them flirt with disaster.

So, for all the talk about Georgie going, Gamble's wages and holding onto Mooney and Meyler, how much finances are at the club? Are we safe? Do we do ok? Or one of the big boys?